[CBFF] Shoopid move?

[Chuck Soukup]

I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH OAKLAND DIG A DEEPER HOLE WITH THE JOHN SHOOP OFFENSE 
OF MAXIMUM 3 YARD PASSES AND RUNS.  I WILL LOVE IT EQUALLY AS MUCH AS I LOVE 
TO WATCH DAVE WANNSTEDT FAIL IN EVERY JOB HIS HAS BEEN GIVEN.

CHUCK


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ferolie" <ferolie at charter.net>
To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Shoopid move?


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Shannon" <tshanno at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> He wasn't stupid. He was stubborn and didn't have any experience with a
>>> competent offense.
>>
>> It depends on your definition of stupid.  Someone brought up the WR
>> screen.
>> Predictable plays like that were, IMO, the result of the fact that Shoop
>> lost his mind on the sideline.  Eventually, no matter what the game plan,
>> he
>> went back to old standbys on the spur of the moment.
>>
>> Turner's offense has real timing.  Shoop's never did.  To call his 
>> offense
>> "coordinated" would be an insult to the term.  He had no idea what he was
>> doing.
>>
> There  you go. Exactly the point I'm making.
>
> Shoop can't dance (football-wise). Doesn't make him dumb, but he doesn't
> have the groove. Maybe nobody ever really taught him, maybe he just didn't
> listen, maybe that's just a skill he'll never be able to get.
>
> I believe he kept doing the WR screen because he was thinking it through
> rather than feeling it. Hmmmm, in this situation, with linebackers
> overcommitting to one side and the strong safety lining up less than X 
> yards
> from the line of scrimmage, you're supposed to do a screen to draw the
> defense over. It probably works great in high school and in textbooks, but
> once NFL players and coaches figure out how you're thinking, you're 
> screwed.
>
> He was like a QB who always telegraphs his passes, and unfortunately, he
> kept doing it. That might have had something to do with a coach who 
> enabled
> his stubbornness. No, dammit, this is how it's supposed to be done! If
> lineman A hadn't missed his block or the running back had juked the way he
> was supposed to or the QB had thrown it more quickly, that play would have
> worked, I just know it!
>
>> So to summarize.  He wasn't exactly what you'd call quick.  And he made a
>> lot of mistakes.  And he didn't learn from them.  You can call it what 
>> you
>> want.  I call it stupid.
>
> Bill Belichick learned some very hard lessons in Cleveland and was called
> stupid a lot of times I'm sure. He's now regarded as the top coach in the
> NFL. If Shoop was humbled enough by his experience in Chicago and found
> himself a mentor, he still has a chance to become a real coordinator. He
> just has to find that "it" that he refused to accept while he was playing 
> so
> carefully by the textbook rules.
>
>
>
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