[CBFF] Shoopid move?

[mom2iancal]

Come on, Chuck... dont' hold back...tell us how you really feel about 
Shoop...  LOL

teri

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Soukup" <soukup85 at comcast.net>
To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Shoopid move?


>I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH OAKLAND DIG A DEEPER HOLE WITH THE JOHN SHOOP OFFENSE
> OF MAXIMUM 3 YARD PASSES AND RUNS.  I WILL LOVE IT EQUALLY AS MUCH AS I 
> LOVE
> TO WATCH DAVE WANNSTEDT FAIL IN EVERY JOB HIS HAS BEEN GIVEN.
>
> CHUCK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ferolie" <ferolie at charter.net>
> To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] Shoopid move?
>
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Shannon" <tshanno at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> He wasn't stupid. He was stubborn and didn't have any experience with a
>>>> competent offense.
>>>
>>> It depends on your definition of stupid.  Someone brought up the WR
>>> screen.
>>> Predictable plays like that were, IMO, the result of the fact that Shoop
>>> lost his mind on the sideline.  Eventually, no matter what the game 
>>> plan,
>>> he
>>> went back to old standbys on the spur of the moment.
>>>
>>> Turner's offense has real timing.  Shoop's never did.  To call his
>>> offense
>>> "coordinated" would be an insult to the term.  He had no idea what he 
>>> was
>>> doing.
>>>
>> There  you go. Exactly the point I'm making.
>>
>> Shoop can't dance (football-wise). Doesn't make him dumb, but he doesn't
>> have the groove. Maybe nobody ever really taught him, maybe he just 
>> didn't
>> listen, maybe that's just a skill he'll never be able to get.
>>
>> I believe he kept doing the WR screen because he was thinking it through
>> rather than feeling it. Hmmmm, in this situation, with linebackers
>> overcommitting to one side and the strong safety lining up less than X
>> yards
>> from the line of scrimmage, you're supposed to do a screen to draw the
>> defense over. It probably works great in high school and in textbooks, 
>> but
>> once NFL players and coaches figure out how you're thinking, you're
>> screwed.
>>
>> He was like a QB who always telegraphs his passes, and unfortunately, he
>> kept doing it. That might have had something to do with a coach who
>> enabled
>> his stubbornness. No, dammit, this is how it's supposed to be done! If
>> lineman A hadn't missed his block or the running back had juked the way 
>> he
>> was supposed to or the QB had thrown it more quickly, that play would 
>> have
>> worked, I just know it!
>>
>>> So to summarize.  He wasn't exactly what you'd call quick.  And he made 
>>> a
>>> lot of mistakes.  And he didn't learn from them.  You can call it what
>>> you
>>> want.  I call it stupid.
>>
>> Bill Belichick learned some very hard lessons in Cleveland and was called
>> stupid a lot of times I'm sure. He's now regarded as the top coach in the
>> NFL. If Shoop was humbled enough by his experience in Chicago and found
>> himself a mentor, he still has a chance to become a real coordinator. He
>> just has to find that "it" that he refused to accept while he was playing
>> so
>> carefully by the textbook rules.
>>
>>
>>
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