[CBFF] CBFF Blog: "Arrogant" Angelo Laughs Last

Thu Nov 2 13:13:50 MST 2006

Is JA the GM at Miami in this hypothetical situation?  If so, then yea,
Miami would probably be where the Bears are.  I firmly believe that you need
a separate GM and coach and both need to be on the same page.  I just don't
think that JA and Saban would have been on the same page.  If he could
partner with a GM that thinks like him and Saban doesn't have the last say
on personnel, the results would be similar to JA and Lovie.

JMO, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
[mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Steve Behrens
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:01 PM
To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
Subject: Re: [CBFF] CBFF Blog: "Arrogant" Angelo Laughs Last

One can only go by what one see's happening at his current (and first) NFL
coaching gig.  He may not have had the kind of failure he's currently having
in Miami, but I highly doubt he'd be having the success Lovie has manifested
in this current Bears team.

To put it another way,  Who here doesn't believe Lovie would have the Fins
off to a better start if he had been the coach in Miami?  I certainly think
he would have.

I know it's all conjecture, but isn't that what this list is all about?  ;-)

-Bhre

On 11/2/06, Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just because Saban cant make personnel decisions to save his life, doesn't
> mean he'd have been a bad coach for the bears.
>
> JA has already worked with Rosenhaus in the past.  Hopefully they can
> continue to work with him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Steve Behrens
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] CBFF Blog: "Arrogant" Angelo Laughs Last
>
> As much credit Angelo deserves for hiring Lovie (and there should be
> tons),
> you have to temper that with the knowledge that  Angelo first offered up
> the
> most prestigious NFL coaching job to Nick Saban, who, lucky for us, took a
> pass on coaching our Bears.  (Hey, I wanted Saban at the time as well.  I
> aint say'n... I'm just say'.)
> At this point in time, the key issues are weighing on Angelo's approval
> rating:
>
> 1)  Not having Lovie resigned;  Depending on how much Lovie feels
> disrespected at not getting offered a contract extension last year, I feel
> there's a reasonable possibility that he walks after this season.  There
> will be plenty of team willing to pay more that what Angelo will offer him
> this off season.
>
> 2)  Same goes for Briggs.  I've already seen mention that Briggs intends
> to
> walk at the end of the season.  I think Angelo should have tried harder to
> sign him last year, and probably won't even come close this off season.
>
> 3)  Is Angelo's personality type such that it will make negotiation with
> Drew Rosenhaus - and the several players he has playing with the Bears
> - practically impossible?  My fear is that negotiations could very well
> turn
> ugly, and if they do for one, they might for all.  Will angelo just think
> that he's good enough to just go out and replace these guys instead of
> paying for them?  I think that's a possibility.
>
> Those are my main worries / issues as it pertains to Angelo... but, IMO,
> they're substantial and looming just beyond the afterglow of this season.
>
> -Behr
>
>
>
>
> On 11/2/06, mactbone <mactbone0 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I know I'm worried about the offensive line. I don't
> > feel that much of the depth is any good and since the
> > starters are all so old I think it's an issue that
> > needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. I also
> > think that the LB depth needs to show something or
> > they need to draft or sign somebody. Ayabendejo is
> > great for special teams and spot duty but that defense
> > gets noticeably worse if Urlacher, Hillenmeyer and
> > Ayabendejo are the starting 'backers. I don't think
> > that the coaches have any confidence in Leon Joe or
> > the other recent drafted LBers. I'm really unclear on
> > the RB situation because I can't tell if it's a scheme
> > issue or lack of talent. Last year the Bears ran with
> > nine guys in the box and were able to grind out the
> > yards but last week was the first time I had any
> > confidence in the run game - unfortunately it's not
> > impressive when you run on the 49ers.
> >
> > Basically, there are issues and flaws with this team
> > that haven't been exposed yet for various reasons. At
> > this time it's not an issue, but to be successful you
> > have to think ahead and plan for when things go wrong.
> > Not every team will give up 17 points before they get
> > a first down.
> >
> > I don't think Angelo has done a bad job, he's just
> > very mediocre. I wouldn't hesitate if someone better
> > was available. Although I should give him credit for
> > the Lovie signing, so far it's looking really good.
> > -Chris
> >
> > --- Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So you have issues with things that may or may not
> > > pop up down the line?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Tom Shannon
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:49 AM
> > > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > Subject: Re: [CBFF] CBFF Blog: "Arrogant" Angelo
> > > Laughs Last
> > >
> > >
> > > You're thinking specifics.  I'm thinking about
> > > long-term response to
> > > problems as yet unknown as they crop up.  I think
> > > its best addressed after
> > > the season.
> > >
> > > Tom S.
> > >
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