[CBFF] How long till the love for Lovie?

Tue Oct 3 10:45:56 MDT 2006

I believe the contract was extended before the incident, but it wasn't officially signed (with the Panthers declining to match) until the next day or so afterwards.

Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com> wrote:  So it's one's word vs the other. Did anyone else say that RMJ called him a
faggot and jew? How come we don’t hear witnesses?? Hell, there had to be
someone that saw what happened. We don’t hear ANYTHING from witness
reports. And why don’t we hear about what happened to provoke this? So RMJ
just decided he's doing to be the shit out of some dude for shits and
giggles? Doubt it.

The fact I do know is that the DA said RMJ wasn’t involved in the
unconscious beating. I'd like to think that the DA would know more than us.

If all he did was call him names and shove/slap him, that doesn’t justify
suspension. It's wrong and stupid but not suspension worthy. 

Btw, wasn’t the contract signed before this? The article said it was signed
after. 

-----Original Message-----
From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
[mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Stigberg
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:12 AM
To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
Subject: Re: [CBFF] How long till the love for Lovie?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10012006/sports/the_story_that_tv_wont_dare_touc
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Phil DeNomme wrote:
> Um...he's not the one that beat him unconscious. And please provide me
with
> a link that he called him a fucking jew and faggot. The DA himself said
> that RMJ DID NOT perform the absolute beating. He shoved him and left. I
> guess if that's your criteria for suspension, then I'm glad you're not in
> charge.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of mactbone
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:35 AM
> To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] How long till the love for Lovie?
> 
> Well, yeah. He beat a guy unconcious and called him a
> faggot and a fucking jew. That seems like something
> you might want to discourage. I don't expect them to
> cut him or slap a long suspension on him, but I could
> see them making him sit for a game. I guess you have
> to commit four crimes and puke in a car that's been
> pulled over.
> 
> Anyway, the day he pled no contest the Bears were
> showing film of Benson celebrating a TD with Grossman.
> Just a little misdirection. Like last year, it was
> just a little while before they explained the
> circumstances surrounding Fred Miller's broken jaw.
> 
> I said what I think earlier. I hope they improve their
> communication and disciplinary actions. I wouldn't be
> surprised if they didn't.
> -Chris
> 
> --- Phil DeNomme 
wrote:
> 
> 
>>Odd. I distinctly remember JA saying how
>>disappointed he is in the actions
>>of RMJ. What do you expect? Them to suspend RMJ? 
>>You act like they are
>>turning a blind eye to it.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
>>[mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On
>>Behalf Of mactbone
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:55 AM
>>To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
>>Subject: Re: [CBFF] How long till the love for
>>Lovie?
>>
>>I'd argue that Lovie and this organization do have
>>one
>>glaring weakness. They don't don't make players
>>culpable for off-field incidents or acknowledge that
>>those problems exist. As much as I liked the Bears
>>getting two interceptions, it made me a little sick
>>to
>>know it was Manning, Jr. I think it's an area they
>>can
>>improve on, not that it should be a reason to get
>>rid
>>of them, but I really hope we don't get to the same
>>place Cincinnati's at.
>>-Chris
>>
>>--- Jerry Madsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt,
>>>
>>>To the contrary my friend! I'm not pissed-off
>>
>>about
>>
>>>this one. I'm
>>>just nervous. Think about it: Lovie is the first
>>>decent head coach
>>>we've had since Ditka. Wanne was horrible; even
>>
>>his
>>
>>>former players
>>>say as much (Chris Zorich does a great Wanne
>>>impression, by the way).
>>>Dick Jauron is one of the classiest guys in the
>>>NFL... and a mediocre
>>>coach at best.
>>>
>>>We suffered through a decade of these guys and
>>
>>along
>>
>>>comes Lovie
>>>Smith. He returns the D to its former glory. He
>>>can admit when he's
>>>wrong AND makes the necessary change (e.g. Terry
>>>Shae). He seems to
>>>know the right amount of discipline and pressure
>>
>>to
>>
>>>enact on his team
>>>(e.g. Training Camp 06). Bottom line: the guy
>>
>>knows
>>
>>>how to maximize a
>>>player's strengths and doesn't ask them to do what
>>>they can't. That's
>>>outstanding!
>>>
>>>So, no Matt, I'm not pissed. If anything, I'm the
>>>complete opposite;
>>>which is why I want JA to wrap up a contract
>>>extension with Lovie and
>>>pay him what he's worth.
>>>
>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>>On 10/3/06, Matt Langschwager
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Man Jerry, it's like you can't be happy unless
>>>
>>>you're pissed off about something...
>>>
>>>> :(
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>Jerry Madsen wrote:
>>>> I'm confident that Jerry Angelo has got to
>>
>>have
>>
>>>something already in
>>>
>>>>the works, but I still can't help but wonder how
>>>
>>>much longer Lovie
>>>
>>>>Smith is going to have to wait for a contract
>>>
>>>extension. He's one of
>>>
>>>>the lowest paid coaches in the league and he's
>>>
>>>done one of the best
>>>
>>>>jobs - heck, I'm shocked that the likes of Louis
>>>
>>>Farrakhan hasn't
>>>
>>>>accused the Bears of underpaying Lovie because
>>>
>>>he's black. But all
>>>
>>>>that aside, I see little reason for waiting.
>>
>>That
>>
>>>doesn't mean JA
>>>
>>>>isn't without reason; I'm just not seeing it IF
>>
>>it
>>
>>>even exists.
>>>
>>>>Jerry
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