[CBFF] Manning (was How long till the love for Lovie?)

[Jim Ferolie]

But we knew 90 percent of this in April. My thing is either we got over it 
or we didn't. The fact that he learned one hell of a lesson -- that being 
obnoxious and running with people like this can actually get you prison time 
and that now he'd better shape up or he's shipping out for quite some 
time -- is enough for me to let it go.

The problem is "asshole" can come in many forms. Is Olin an asshole because 
he blows up over stupid shit and can't stop until a jaw breaks? I have a 
friend just like that who is a really good guy but really high-strung. On 
the other hand, maybe Rex Grossman or someone else we think we like is a 
real jerk to everyone when the cameras are off (just being hypothetical; I 
think Rex seems like a really nice kid).

This goes back to the whole thing I've been arguing. Manning certainly 
appears to be a jerk. But we can't assume anything about any of these guys 
except what they choose to show us. The chances that the other 52 Bears and 
the other several hundred former Bears are all people we'd admire if we 
really knew them are pretty slim.

Actually, you know what, I can help settle this, at least the part I've been 
stubborn about. I know someone who has interviewed him several times (when 
he played baseball for the Swing of the Quad-Cities). I'll drop him a line 
and see what he has to say.

I'll bet you nobody in San Diego knew what an asshole Ryan Leaf was until he 
started losing. But I know someone who did, and I heard all about it before 
he was drafted -- while lots of people on the list here were clamoring for 
the Bears to move up to No. 2.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Stigberg" <sti3 at rcn.com>


> My thing is more it tempers my excitement for Manning's great game last
> Sunday knowing that he's probably a complete asshole that goes around
> calling geeky guys faggots and f'ing jews.  Another guy made the point
> about lovie and I'm not sure if I agree.
>
> Jim Ferolie wrote:
>> Sketchy. We are talking about the New York Post, and a column at that. 
>> Facts
>> are unclear, and even if the victim's testimony is 100 percent accurate,
>> that's hardly grounds for a suspension in the NFL. A slap and a racial
>> epithet.
>>
>> I'm not saying it's not despicable, but that's not a matter for 
>> on-the-field
>> discipline. That's in-house, "Listen here, Ricky, you pull that shit 
>> again,
>> and we'll cut you so fast your head will spin and then use the morals 
>> clause
>> to terminate your contract." None of that gets in the media. We have no 
>> idea
>> how Lovie or JA responded to it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Aaron Stigberg" <sti3 at rcn.com>
>>
>>
>> http://www.nypost.com/seven/10012006/sports/the_story_that_tv_wont_dare_touch_sports_phil_mushnick.htm
>>
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