[CBFF] How long till the love for Lovie?

Jim Ferolie ferolie at charter.net
Thu Oct 5 06:42:24 MDT 2006


No, no, there was video. That counts as a witness.

I don't think it's that athletes and high-profile people get less severe 
sentences, I think it's people who can hire aggressive lawyers get less 
severe sentences. If you get an OWI and don't hire a lawyer, what you get is 
about twice as bad. There's definitely something wrong with that,  but it's 
the truth.

>From what I understand, he "just got probation" (and an unusually long 52 
weeks of anger management) because it would have been a misdemeanor if he 
hadn't been on probation. And this probation is a lot closer to a suspended 
sentence than his previous one.

By the way, here's the reply from the writer who covered him when he played 
minor-league baseball. Nothing terribly revealing...

"Ricky was here for about six weeks, then left to return for the start of 
football practice at UCLA. By that point, I think he had pretty much figured 
out that his future was in football. He was pretty disinterested, both in 
being here and in working on his baseball game. Near the end, the manager at 
the time just stopped penciling him into the lineup.
On the couple of occasions I did talk with him, he was fine. He wasn't the 
type of personality who would be standing outside the dugout signing 
autographs or talking with fans before or after games. Some of that, I'm 
sure, came in part because he joined the team in late June (after classes) 
and knew that he was out of here the last week of July."


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mactbone" <mactbone0 at yahoo.com>
> As to David's point about Manning, Jr and probation;
> I've seen more than a few athletes and other high
> profile people get much less severe sentences than we
> would think. I want to say that I know of people who
> have been on probation and just got more probation
> after the next arrest but I can't so I guess the
> prosecutor (not the judge who wouldn't be privy to all
> the information or power to make the deal) must have
> had a good reason for doing this deal. The only reason
> I can think of is that with the victim unconcious it
> would be hard to prove who did what. There were no
> witnesses other than the attackers themselves. It's
> possible there was some proof or mitigating
> circumstance, but from everything I've read it's just
> Manning's on probation word versus Sazdi's unconcious
> word and that doesn't seem like it would be hard to
> convict Manning. I'm not a lawyer though so I can't
> guess what the deal was.
> -Chris
>
> --- Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ricky Manning is not the person who beat this
>> individual, who punched this
>> individual and caused injuries," attorney and agent
>> James Ivler said. "The
>> district attorney acknowledged this in open court,
>> which is why probation
>> was accepted by the judge in a felony assault
>> charge. It is a bitter pill to
>> swallow, but if there [was] a trial, there [was] the
>> chance of missing time,
>> and if something crazy happens, he's going to jail.
>> Ricky was there, there
>> was an altercation and a physical touching. He put
>> himself in a bad
>> situation."
>>
>>
> http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-0609270217s
>> ep27,1,3261822.story?coll=cs-bears-headlines
>
>
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