[CBFF] How long till the love for Lovie?

mactbone mactbone0 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 5 11:13:35 MDT 2006


I haven't seen the video, but from what I've read, it
seems like the video was either of poor quality or in
the wrong position to catch the details. The only
mentions of the video usually say that Manning can be
seen being pulled away from the fight. However, I
haven't seen anyone say that the video proves or
disproves his involvement in the altercation. If the
video was good and proved Manning's innocence then I
doubt it gets as far as it did. I refer again to
Maurice Jones-Drew who was initially charged but had
it dropped.
-Chris

--- Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:

> No, no, there was video. That counts as a witness.
> 
> I don't think it's that athletes and high-profile
> people get less severe 
> sentences, I think it's people who can hire
> aggressive lawyers get less 
> severe sentences. If you get an OWI and don't hire a
> lawyer, what you get is 
> about twice as bad. There's definitely something
> wrong with that,  but it's 
> the truth.
> 
> >From what I understand, he "just got probation"
> (and an unusually long 52 
> weeks of anger management) because it would have
> been a misdemeanor if he 
> hadn't been on probation. And this probation is a
> lot closer to a suspended 
> sentence than his previous one.
> 
> By the way, here's the reply from the writer who
> covered him when he played 
> minor-league baseball. Nothing terribly revealing...
> 
> "Ricky was here for about six weeks, then left to
> return for the start of 
> football practice at UCLA. By that point, I think he
> had pretty much figured 
> out that his future was in football. He was pretty
> disinterested, both in 
> being here and in working on his baseball game. Near
> the end, the manager at 
> the time just stopped penciling him into the lineup.
> On the couple of occasions I did talk with him, he
> was fine. He wasn't the 
> type of personality who would be standing outside
> the dugout signing 
> autographs or talking with fans before or after
> games. Some of that, I'm 
> sure, came in part because he joined the team in
> late June (after classes) 
> and knew that he was out of here the last week of
> July."
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mactbone" <mactbone0 at yahoo.com>
> > As to David's point about Manning, Jr and
> probation;
> > I've seen more than a few athletes and other high
> > profile people get much less severe sentences than
> we
> > would think. I want to say that I know of people
> who
> > have been on probation and just got more probation
> > after the next arrest but I can't so I guess the
> > prosecutor (not the judge who wouldn't be privy to
> all
> > the information or power to make the deal) must
> have
> > had a good reason for doing this deal. The only
> reason
> > I can think of is that with the victim unconcious
> it
> > would be hard to prove who did what. There were no
> > witnesses other than the attackers themselves.
> It's
> > possible there was some proof or mitigating
> > circumstance, but from everything I've read it's
> just
> > Manning's on probation word versus Sazdi's
> unconcious
> > word and that doesn't seem like it would be hard
> to
> > convict Manning. I'm not a lawyer though so I
> can't
> > guess what the deal was.
> > -Chris
> >
> > --- Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Ricky Manning is not the person who beat this
> >> individual, who punched this
> >> individual and caused injuries," attorney and
> agent
> >> James Ivler said. "The
> >> district attorney acknowledged this in open
> court,
> >> which is why probation
> >> was accepted by the judge in a felony assault
> >> charge. It is a bitter pill to
> >> swallow, but if there [was] a trial, there [was]
> the
> >> chance of missing time,
> >> and if something crazy happens, he's going to
> jail.
> >> Ricky was there, there
> >> was an altercation and a physical touching. He
> put
> >> himself in a bad
> >> situation."
> >>
> >>
> >
>
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-0609270217s
> >> ep27,1,3261822.story?coll=cs-bears-headlines
> >
> >
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