[CBFF] CT - Bursting at seams with depth

[Steve Behrens]

Come on.... I explained the *why* in how I thought it was detrimental....
yeah, it's thin, but I also explained that (due to my media distain).

It's like, 'hey, you guys are great back-ups! Look, you could fit in
perfectly with these teams as starters!! (and probably get loads more money
in most cases)   What's the point? The Bears wouldn't be nearly as strong a
team if they were to trade away those guys; they'd be shooting themselves in
the foot.  So what's the point of being so specific about where they could
go?

Yeah, it's a reach..... so what's your point?

-Behr


On 8/7/07, Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:
>
> How is this negative? C'mon, Behr, that's a reach even for you. Talking
> about how stocked the team is and actually backing it up. That's a bad
> thing????
>
> Perhaps the local media should make sure to only write what the Bears PR
> department approves. In fact, let's all make a pact to never read anything
> not on chicagobears.com.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Behrens" <steve.behrens at gmail.com>
>
>
> > Being the media cynic that I am,  this article just seemed like a piece
> > aimed at getting these guys a bit disgruntled and thinking about trying
> to
> > go someplace where they have a better chance of starting.  Otherwise,
> why
> > not just say that our depth is such that these guys could start for many
> a
> > team (which they did), and leave it at that?  No, they had to go and
> spell
> > out problems with other team and explain why they would be a great fit
> as
> > a
> > starter somewhere else instead of a being in a back-up role here.
> >
> > It may seem like a reach, but more and more, it appears some of the
> local
> > media (and much of the national), would rather write about negativity,
> > even
> > if they have to spin / create it themselves....
> >
> > -Behr
> >
> > ps.... I sent this article out last night.... did it not come thru?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/6/07, Ross McCoy <ross.mccoy at amd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw this article this morning and thought it was ridiculous. Of the
> >> guys
> >> on this list, there are very few that we could consider to trade if we
> >> are
> >> serious about a Superbowl run. I give my thoughts on each:
> >>
> >> Jerry Madsen (jerrywm at gmail.com) writes:
> >> >
> >> > Alex Brown, DE
> >> > Brown still may start for the Bears. He is a two-time Pro Bowl
> >> > alternate whom the Bears allowed to solicit trade offers last
> >> > off-season, none of which were good enough to give away an all-around
> >> > end who has started 64 straight games.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: New York Giants. Michael Strahan is near retirement
> >> > and Brown has more sacks than Strahan (21-18.5) over the last three
> >> > years. At this point of their careers, frankly, Brown is better.
> >>
> >> We would have to see Bazuin DO something for this to be a possibility.
> We
> >> really depend on rotating linemen to keep them fresh.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Brian Griese, QB
> >> > Griese was not happy that he didn't get a shot at starting last year
> >> > when Rex Grossman faltered, and the Bears were not overly pleased
> with
> >> > his attitude last off-season. The Bears are not shopping Griese, but
> >> > if the phone should ring ...
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: Atlanta Falcons. With Michael Vick in some jeopardy,
> >> > they are relying on Joey Harrington. Yes, that Joey Harrington.
> >>
> >> Griese is a necessary insurance policy unless you really believe Orton
> is
> >> significantly outperforming him. You need 2 quality QBs on the roster
> and
> >> prior to last year Grossman has not had stellar luck with injuries.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Israel Idonije, DE
> >> > The Buffalo Bills signed Idonije to an offer sheet for a three-year
> >> > deal last year; the Bears, even with Alex Brown and Adewale Ogunleye,
> >> > thought enough of Idonije to match the offer and keep him. At 6 feet
> 6
> >> > inches and 275 pounds, he plays anywhere and on special teams.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: The Bills. They had the right idea targeting a young
> >> > player below the public's radar.
> >>
> >> This is one that I never quite understood. Does Idonije really do
> enough
> >> to
> >> warrent the offer sheet we matched? I guess he is a DT/DE backup, but
> >> with
> >> the other players we have at those positions, I would consider him
> >> expendable.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Danieal Manning, S
> >> > Manning is part of the reason Harris was expendable, and Carolina
> >> > wouldn't have minded him stowing away in Harris' luggage. With his
> >> > ability to return kickoffs and play corner, he is not going anywhere.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: The Panthers. Harris solves only one problem in the
> >> > secondary. Veteran Mike Minter is on the edge of retirement and
> >> > Manning is all upside.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Only if you want to sell the future. Brown's injury history requires
> that
> >> we
> >> keep him as a backup and having the athletic ablility to possibly back
> up
> >> a corner as well is a bonus.
> >>
> >> > Ricky Manning Jr., CB
> >> > He came to Chicago with designs on a starting job. That won't happen
> >> > with Nathan Vasher and Charles Tillman set, but Manning was a
> sometime
> >> > starter at Carolina.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: New England Patriots. Franchise-tagged Asante Samuel
> >> > is threatening to hold out the first 10 games and Manning is a No. 1
> >> > nickel corner at the least.
> >> >
> >>
> >> You need at least 3 quality corners, so unless Manning or McBride are
> >> fully
> >> ready to take that 3rd CB roll (which I don't think they are especially
> >> for
> >> a possible SB year) you need to keep Manning.
> >>
> >> > Terrence Metcalf, G
> >> > Metcalf started the first 12 games of 2005 and the Bears won nine,
> and
> >> > the franchise thought enough of him to lock him up with a six-year
> >> > contract in '06. Metcalf has 20 starts in Chicago.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: New York Jets. Veteran Pete Kendall has contract
> >> > issues and Adrien Clarke is young and has had back surgery. It could
> >> > be a reunion of Metcalf and Thomas Jones, who piled up 1,335 yards
> and
> >> > nine TDs with Metcalf at right guard in 2005.
> >>
> >> Trade an reasonable quality offensive lineman!? Are you off your
> rocker?
> >> I
> >> would be more likely to trade for OL rather than from that position.
> >> Frankly,
> >> we are old and at significant risk of having injuries on the OL and I
> >> think
> >> this could be our Achilles heel in making our run this year.
> >>
> >> > Kyle Orton, QB
> >> > After an off-season makeover, Orton has looked like the kind of
> >> > second-day draft pick teams dream about (think: Tom Brady, Mark
> >> > Brunell, Marc Bulger). The Bears won 10 of his 15 starts in 2005 when
> >> > he was charged with not losing games as much as winning them.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jeff Garcia? Chris Simms? Jake
> >> > Plummer? Bruce Gradkowski? Orton has a future and the Bucs need to
> >> > start over. The Vikings were 0-3 with Tavaris Jackson, but Angelo
> >> > isn't going to help a division rival.
> >> >
> >>
> >> This isn't a possibility until Grossman's future clears up. If we end
> up
> >> signing Grossman to a long term deal, then Orton does become
> expendable.
> >> To be honest, I don't think Orton has enough trade value to make it
> worth
> >> trading him i.e. we couldn't get a draft pick any higher than we
> drafted
> >> him, so unless he is not living up to expectations, you don't get rid
> of
> >> him.
> >>
> >> > Adrian Peterson, RB
> >> > The quiet one is a low-mileage 28 years old and a true every-down
> >> > back, skilled as a ball carrier, receiver and pass protector. He is
> >> > 210 pounds with a career average of 4.7 yards per carry. He has
> >> > started only one game as a Bear (in 2003); he would start many more
> >> > elsewhere.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: Green Bay Packers. Northwestern's Noah Herron may be
> >> > the answer, but Peterson is an ideal fit with Favre in that offense.
> >> > One problem: Angelo won't answer the phone when caller ID reveals
> >> > who's on the line.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Another call for insanity. Peterson is our only backup at this position
> >> which I would feel comfortable. Wolfe will be a good 3rd down back, but
> I
> >> would freak out if we relied on him every down (he simply isn't big
> >> enough
> >> to take that pounding).
> >>
> >> > Jamar Williams, LB
> >> > If Lance Briggs had stayed out, Williams would have been in. Williams
> >> > can play strong or weak side and with Briggs not likely to be a Bear
> >> > beyond this season, the team is in no hurry to lose Williams.
> >> >
> >> > Who should call: Indianapolis Colts. The Super Bowl champs lost Cato
> >> > June to the Buccaneers and Tyjuan Hagler is a project for a Colts
> >> > defense that has lost four starting linebackers since 2003.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Did we already sign Briggs to a long term deal!? I didn't think so.
> >> Williams
> >> is our future and also our best backup LB. This is not like the safety
> >> position
> >> where there was a glut of talent unless you are excited about names
> like
> >> Leon Joe or Rod Wilson (I have not been impressed by either of them).
> >> Okwo
> >> is
> >> a complete unknown at this point.
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >>
> >>
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