[CBFF] CT - Bursting at seams with depth

[Steve Behrens]

I agree Ross....  and in my opinion, it would only serve to disgruntle those
particular players....
--Behr


On 8/7/07, Ross McCoy <ross.mccoy at amd.com> wrote:
>
> If the article was just a list of players which are capable of being
> starters,
> it would have been a lot different. When you start proposing teams they
> could
> be on, that is starting to make trade proposals in my view. Maybe that
> wasn't
> his intent, but that is the way it came across to me. Having taken it the
> way I did, I thought it was worth while to consider the viability of those
> proposals. I guess I will just be quiet and stop thinking such thoughts...
>
> Ross
>
> Jim Ferolie (ferolie at charter.net) writes:
> > Ross, man, take a breath and calm down. Nowhere in this story did it say
> the
> > Bears should trade a single one of them. It said all of these guys could
> > start on other teams and here some other teams that would want to stick
> them
> > in the starting lineup right away.
> >
> > It's a pretty damn good point of pride. Nine backups who could easily
> start
> > for other teams. Reminds me of the early '90s Chiefs, so freakin'
> stocked
> > from 1-53 (except they could never get that QB figured out).
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ross McCoy" <ross.mccoy at amd.com>
> >
> >
> > >I saw this article this morning and thought it was ridiculous. Of the
> guys
> > > on this list, there are very few that we could consider to trade if we
> are
> > > serious about a Superbowl run. I give my thoughts on each:
> > >
> > > Jerry Madsen (jerrywm at gmail.com) writes:
> > >>
> > >> Alex Brown, DE
> > >> Brown still may start for the Bears. He is a two-time Pro Bowl
> > >> alternate whom the Bears allowed to solicit trade offers last
> > >> off-season, none of which were good enough to give away an all-around
> > >> end who has started 64 straight games.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: New York Giants. Michael Strahan is near retirement
> > >> and Brown has more sacks than Strahan (21-18.5) over the last three
> > >> years. At this point of their careers, frankly, Brown is better.
> > >
> > > We would have to see Bazuin DO something for this to be a possibility.
> We
> > > really depend on rotating linemen to keep them fresh.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Brian Griese, QB
> > >> Griese was not happy that he didn't get a shot at starting last year
> > >> when Rex Grossman faltered, and the Bears were not overly pleased
> with
> > >> his attitude last off-season. The Bears are not shopping Griese, but
> > >> if the phone should ring ...
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: Atlanta Falcons. With Michael Vick in some jeopardy,
> > >> they are relying on Joey Harrington. Yes, that Joey Harrington.
> > >
> > > Griese is a necessary insurance policy unless you really believe Orton
> is
> > > significantly outperforming him. You need 2 quality QBs on the roster
> and
> > > prior to last year Grossman has not had stellar luck with injuries.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Israel Idonije, DE
> > >> The Buffalo Bills signed Idonije to an offer sheet for a three-year
> > >> deal last year; the Bears, even with Alex Brown and Adewale Ogunleye,
> > >> thought enough of Idonije to match the offer and keep him. At 6 feet
> 6
> > >> inches and 275 pounds, he plays anywhere and on special teams.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: The Bills. They had the right idea targeting a young
> > >> player below the public's radar.
> > >
> > > This is one that I never quite understood. Does Idonije really do
> enough
> > > to
> > > warrent the offer sheet we matched? I guess he is a DT/DE backup, but
> with
> > > the other players we have at those positions, I would consider him
> > > expendable.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Danieal Manning, S
> > >> Manning is part of the reason Harris was expendable, and Carolina
> > >> wouldn't have minded him stowing away in Harris' luggage. With his
> > >> ability to return kickoffs and play corner, he is not going anywhere.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: The Panthers. Harris solves only one problem in the
> > >> secondary. Veteran Mike Minter is on the edge of retirement and
> > >> Manning is all upside.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Only if you want to sell the future. Brown's injury history requires
> that
> > > we
> > > keep him as a backup and having the athletic ablility to possibly back
> up
> > > a corner as well is a bonus.
> > >
> > >> Ricky Manning Jr., CB
> > >> He came to Chicago with designs on a starting job. That won't happen
> > >> with Nathan Vasher and Charles Tillman set, but Manning was a
> sometime
> > >> starter at Carolina.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: New England Patriots. Franchise-tagged Asante Samuel
> > >> is threatening to hold out the first 10 games and Manning is a No. 1
> > >> nickel corner at the least.
> > >>
> > >
> > > You need at least 3 quality corners, so unless Manning or McBride are
> > > fully
> > > ready to take that 3rd CB roll (which I don't think they are
> especially
> > > for
> > > a possible SB year) you need to keep Manning.
> > >
> > >> Terrence Metcalf, G
> > >> Metcalf started the first 12 games of 2005 and the Bears won nine,
> and
> > >> the franchise thought enough of him to lock him up with a six-year
> > >> contract in '06. Metcalf has 20 starts in Chicago.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: New York Jets. Veteran Pete Kendall has contract
> > >> issues and Adrien Clarke is young and has had back surgery. It could
> > >> be a reunion of Metcalf and Thomas Jones, who piled up 1,335 yards
> and
> > >> nine TDs with Metcalf at right guard in 2005.
> > >
> > > Trade an reasonable quality offensive lineman!? Are you off your
> rocker? I
> > > would be more likely to trade for OL rather than from that position.
> > > Frankly,
> > > we are old and at significant risk of having injuries on the OL and I
> > > think
> > > this could be our Achilles heel in making our run this year.
> > >
> > >> Kyle Orton, QB
> > >> After an off-season makeover, Orton has looked like the kind of
> > >> second-day draft pick teams dream about (think: Tom Brady, Mark
> > >> Brunell, Marc Bulger). The Bears won 10 of his 15 starts in 2005 when
> > >> he was charged with not losing games as much as winning them.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jeff Garcia? Chris Simms? Jake
> > >> Plummer? Bruce Gradkowski? Orton has a future and the Bucs need to
> > >> start over. The Vikings were 0-3 with Tavaris Jackson, but Angelo
> > >> isn't going to help a division rival.
> > >>
> > >
> > > This isn't a possibility until Grossman's future clears up. If we end
> up
> > > signing Grossman to a long term deal, then Orton does become
> expendable.
> > > To be honest, I don't think Orton has enough trade value to make it
> worth
> > > trading him i.e. we couldn't get a draft pick any higher than we
> drafted
> > > him, so unless he is not living up to expectations, you don't get rid
> of
> > > him.
> > >
> > >> Adrian Peterson, RB
> > >> The quiet one is a low-mileage 28 years old and a true every-down
> > >> back, skilled as a ball carrier, receiver and pass protector. He is
> > >> 210 pounds with a career average of 4.7 yards per carry. He has
> > >> started only one game as a Bear (in 2003); he would start many more
> > >> elsewhere.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: Green Bay Packers. Northwestern's Noah Herron may be
> > >> the answer, but Peterson is an ideal fit with Favre in that offense.
> > >> One problem: Angelo won't answer the phone when caller ID reveals
> > >> who's on the line.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Another call for insanity. Peterson is our only backup at this
> position
> > > which I would feel comfortable. Wolfe will be a good 3rd down back,
> but I
> > > would freak out if we relied on him every down (he simply isn't big
> enough
> > > to take that pounding).
> > >
> > >> Jamar Williams, LB
> > >> If Lance Briggs had stayed out, Williams would have been in. Williams
> > >> can play strong or weak side and with Briggs not likely to be a Bear
> > >> beyond this season, the team is in no hurry to lose Williams.
> > >>
> > >> Who should call: Indianapolis Colts. The Super Bowl champs lost Cato
> > >> June to the Buccaneers and Tyjuan Hagler is a project for a Colts
> > >> defense that has lost four starting linebackers since 2003.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Did we already sign Briggs to a long term deal!? I didn't think so.
> > > Williams
> > > is our future and also our best backup LB. This is not like the safety
> > > position
> > > where there was a glut of talent unless you are excited about names
> like
> > > Leon Joe or Rod Wilson (I have not been impressed by either of them).
> Okwo
> > > is
> > > a complete unknown at this point.
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> > >
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