[CBFF] ESPNi - Kevin Payne
Steve Behrens
steve.behrens at gmail.com
Wed May 2 09:13:36 MDT 2007
WTF, indeed... 'boy'... 'plantation'.... I've known you guys for a long time
on this list, and I have a hard time believing that this is anything but an
unfortunate selection of words... if if you really are ignorant to how this
is sounding, let me be the first to clue you it... it aint sounding real
nice... or Innocent.
Get a F*cking clue, guys....
-Behr
On 5/2/07, Kenny Claxton <kenny.claxton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "He just sounds like he lives on a plantation" = wtf?
>
> On 5/1/07, Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > No, I meant actually weighing the brain tissue. I was kidding. Hester is
> > not
> > the sharpest tool in the shed, but I think a lot of it really is his
> > upbringing. He just sounds like he lives on a plantation. Give him a
> > couple
> > of years and see if he gets more articulate. That will be the test.
> >
> > The reason it concerned me was that it was in concert with the fact that
> > it
> > basically said he's not a very good athlete. At safety you think, well,
> > maybe he's not a great athlete, but at least he's the smart guy who will
> > line them up the way Mike Brown does...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mactbone" <mactbone0 at yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > > Well, I've never met Devin Hester, but from all accounts he's dumb as
> a
> > > rock. People get reputations. Coaches talk. I don't know why that
> > > particular part would bother you more than any other description of
> > > talents and lack thereof.
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: "azbearfan34 at cox.net" <azbearfan34 at cox.net>
> >
> > >
> > > Based on what? The wonderlic . .or is that just one writer's expert
> > > opininion? Do they interview teamates, former coaches before they
> > publish
> > > that drivel??
> > >
> > > Nat
> > > ---- Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:
> > >> I imagine they weigh each player's gray matter. Why not? They measure
> > >> everything else...
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Nat Mara" <azbearfan34 at cox.net>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Lacks ideal mental capacity??? What the /???
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > >> >
> > >> > Kevin Payne
> > >> > S | (6'0", 220, 4.6) | LOUISIANA MONROE
> > >> >
> > >> > Scouts Grade: 53
> > >> >
> > >> > Flags: (S: SPEED) Player lacks ideal speed at position Selected
> by:
> > >> > Chicago Bears
> > >> > Round: 5
> > >> > Pick (Overall): 30(167)
> > >> > View by: Round | Player | NCAA School | Position | NFL Team | Flag
> |
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Strengths: A versatile prospect with experience at running back,
> wide
> > >> > receiver, free and strong safety, as well as punter and return
> > >> > specialist
> > >> > on
> > >> > special teams. Possesses adequate height and good bulk.
> > >> > He is a fluid athlete for his size. Fills hard versus the run and
> > will
> > >> > throw
> > >> > his body around. He is tough and aggressive. Shows good initial
> power
> > >> > as a
> > >> > hitter. Pursuit angles and recognition skills continue to improve.
> He
> > >> > has
> > >> > a
> > >> > great work ethic and is the type that will do everything he can to
> > >> > contribute in different areas to earn his roster spot.
> > >> >
> > >> > Weaknesses: Lacks ideal speed. Was able to overcome it at
> lower-level
> > >> > DI
> > >> > college but lack of acceleration will be a much bigger factor in
> the
> > >> > NFL.
> > >> > He
> > >> > lacks ideal experience at safety and still has much room to improve
> > in
> > >> > terms
> > >> > of footwork and recognition skills. He also needs to do a better
> job
> > of
> > >> > breaking down and wrapping up as a tackler in space. Lacks ideal
> > mental
> > >> > capacity and there are some concerns regarding his potential to
> > handle
> > >> > complex schemes and get his teammates lined up as a safety in the
> > NFL.
> > >> >
> > >> > Overall: Payne was redshirted in 2002. He then started all 12 games
> > as
> > >> > a
> > >> > redshirt freshman in 2003 at running back, carried 248 times for
> 976
> > >> > yards
> > >> > (3.9 average) and six touchdowns, caught 41 passes for 488 yards
> > >> > (11.9 average) and three more scores, completed a 35-yard touchdown
> > >> > pass,
> > >> > was selected to the All-Sun Belt second team, and was named the
> > >> > conference's
> > >> > Freshman of the Year. In 2004, he played in eight of 11 games with
> > >> > seven
> > >> > starts before breaking his arm against North Texas which ended his
> > >> > season.
> > >> > For the year, Payne carried 74 times for 261 yards (3.5 yards) and
> > two
> > >> > touchdowns, and caught 12 passes for 103 yards (8.6 average) and
> one
> > >> > more
> > >> > touchdown. He moved to safety during spring practice in 2005 and
> then
> > >> > started all 11 contests in the fall, earning second team All-Sun
> Belt
> > >> > honors, and recorded 87 total tackles, four tackles for loss, two
> > >> > interceptions, one fumble recovery, and one forced fumble. In 2006,
> > >> > Payne
> > >> > amassed 98 total tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack, four
> > >> > interceptions, three pass breakups, and one forced fumble. During
> the
> > >> > 2005
> > >> > and 2006 seasons, he also returned 24 kickoffs for 605 yards (25.2
> > >> > average)
> > >> > and three punts for nine yards.
> > >> > Payne is a versatile athlete with good size and toughness at the
> > safety
> > >> > position. While he made strides as a senior, Payne still is a raw
> > >> > safety
> > >> > that must improve his tackling consistency and recognition skills
> in
> > >> > coverage. He also lacks ideal top-end speed, which limits his
> range.
> > In
> > >> > our
> > >> > opinion, Payne is an intriguing developmental project worthy of
> > >> > consideration in the fourth-to-fifth round range.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > * Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
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