[CBFF] Sorry

Kenny Claxton kenny.claxton at gmail.com
Thu May 3 05:47:46 MDT 2007


Accepted.

Now let's move onto to our favorite subject: Bears!


K-

On 5/2/07, Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, it was a bad choice of words.
>
> My meaning was that when he talks he sounds like a rural hick in the
> Southern style, like he didn't grow up with a lot of interaction with
> anyone
> who wasn't also a rural hick. It's not a racial thing whatsoever, and I'm
> really embarrassed that it came off that way. I was actually trying to
> defend him in some way, as he's been accused of being stupid.
>
> Mea culpa. I was writing too quickly.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nat Mara" <azbearfan34 at cox.net>
>
>
> >I gotta admit I did not pick up on this originally, but seeing it pointed
> > out now makes me agree with Behr & Kenny's take on this thread.
> >
> > Nat
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Kenny
> Claxton
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:23 AM
> > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > Subject: Re: [CBFF] ESPNi - Kevin Payne
> >
> > It isn't and I am pretty offended.
> >
> > On 5/2/07, Steve Behrens <steve.behrens at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> WTF, indeed... 'boy'... 'plantation'.... I've known you guys for a
> >> long time on this list, and I have a hard time believing that this is
> >> anything but an unfortunate selection of words... if if you really are
> >> ignorant to how this is sounding, let me be the first to clue you
> >> it... it aint sounding real nice... or Innocent.
> >>
> >> Get a F*cking clue, guys....
> >> -Behr
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/2/07, Kenny Claxton <kenny.claxton at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "He just sounds like he lives on a plantation" = wtf?
> >> >
> >> > On 5/1/07, Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > No, I meant actually weighing the brain tissue. I was kidding.
> >> > > Hester
> >> is
> >> > > not
> >> > > the sharpest tool in the shed, but I think a lot of it really is
> >> > > his upbringing. He just sounds like he lives on a plantation. Give
> >> > > him a couple of years and see if he gets more articulate. That
> >> > > will be the test.
> >> > >
> >> > > The reason it concerned me was that it was in concert with the
> >> > > fact
> >> that
> >> > > it
> >> > > basically said he's not a very good athlete. At safety you think,
> >> well,
> >> > > maybe he's not a great athlete, but at least he's the smart guy
> >> > > who
> >> will
> >> > > line them up the way Mike Brown does...
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "mactbone" <mactbone0 at yahoo.com>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Well, I've never met Devin Hester, but from all accounts he's
> >> > > > dumb
> >> as
> >> > a
> >> > > > rock. People get reputations. Coaches talk. I don't know why
> >> > > > that particular part would bother you more than any other
> >> > > > description of talents and lack thereof.
> >> > > > -Chris
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> >> > > > From: "azbearfan34 at cox.net" <azbearfan34 at cox.net>
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Based on what?  The wonderlic . .or is that just one writer's
> >> > > > expert opininion?  Do they interview teamates, former coaches
> >> > > > before they
> >> > > publish
> >> > > > that drivel??
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Nat
> >> > > > ---- Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net> wrote:
> >> > > >> I imagine they weigh each player's gray matter. Why not? They
> >> measure
> >> > > >> everything else...
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> From: "Nat Mara" <azbearfan34 at cox.net>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Lacks ideal mental capacity???  What the /???
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Kevin Payne
> >> > > >> > S | (6'0", 220, 4.6) | LOUISIANA MONROE
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Scouts Grade: 53
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Flags: (S: SPEED) Player lacks ideal speed at position
> >> > > >> > Selected
> >> > by:
> >> > > >> > Chicago Bears
> >> > > >> > Round: 5
> >> > > >> > Pick (Overall): 30(167)
> >> > > >> > View by: Round | Player | NCAA School | Position | NFL Team |
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> >> > |
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> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Strengths: A versatile prospect with experience at running
> >> > > >> > back,
> >> > wide
> >> > > >> > receiver, free and strong safety, as well as punter and
> >> > > >> > return specialist on special teams. Possesses adequate height
> >> > > >> > and good bulk.
> >> > > >> > He is a fluid athlete for his size. Fills hard versus the run
> >> > > >> > and
> >> > > will
> >> > > >> > throw
> >> > > >> > his body around. He is tough and aggressive. Shows good
> >> > > >> > initial
> >> > power
> >> > > >> > as a
> >> > > >> > hitter. Pursuit angles and recognition skills continue to
> >> improve.
> >> > He
> >> > > >> > has
> >> > > >> > a
> >> > > >> > great work ethic and is the type that will do everything he
> >> > > >> > can
> >> to
> >> > > >> > contribute in different areas to earn his roster spot.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Weaknesses: Lacks ideal speed. Was able to overcome it at
> >> > lower-level
> >> > > >> > DI
> >> > > >> > college but lack of acceleration will be a much bigger factor
> >> > > >> > in
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > NFL.
> >> > > >> > He
> >> > > >> > lacks ideal experience at safety and still has much room to
> >> improve
> >> > > in
> >> > > >> > terms
> >> > > >> > of footwork and recognition skills. He also needs to do a
> >> > > >> > better
> >> > job
> >> > > of
> >> > > >> > breaking down and wrapping up as a tackler in space. Lacks
> >> > > >> > ideal
> >> > > mental
> >> > > >> > capacity and there are some concerns regarding his potential
> >> > > >> > to
> >> > > handle
> >> > > >> > complex schemes and get his teammates lined up as a safety in
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > NFL.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Overall: Payne was redshirted in 2002. He then started all 12
> >> games
> >> > > as
> >> > > >> > a
> >> > > >> > redshirt freshman in 2003 at running back, carried 248 times
> >> > > >> > for
> >> > 976
> >> > > >> > yards
> >> > > >> > (3.9 average) and six touchdowns, caught 41 passes for 488
> >> > > >> > yards
> >> > > >> > (11.9 average) and three more scores, completed a 35-yard
> >> touchdown
> >> > > >> > pass,
> >> > > >> > was selected to the All-Sun Belt second team, and was named
> >> > > >> > the conference's Freshman of the Year. In 2004, he played in
> >> > > >> > eight of 11 games
> >> with
> >> > > >> > seven
> >> > > >> > starts before breaking his arm against North Texas which
> >> > > >> > ended
> >> his
> >> > > >> > season.
> >> > > >> > For the year, Payne carried 74 times for 261 yards (3.5
> >> > > >> > yards)
> >> and
> >> > > two
> >> > > >> > touchdowns, and caught 12 passes for 103 yards (8.6 average)
> >> > > >> > and
> >> > one
> >> > > >> > more
> >> > > >> > touchdown. He moved to safety during spring practice in 2005
> >> > > >> > and
> >> > then
> >> > > >> > started all 11 contests in the fall, earning second team
> >> > > >> > All-Sun
> >> > Belt
> >> > > >> > honors, and recorded 87 total tackles, four tackles for loss,
> >> > > >> > two interceptions, one fumble recovery, and one forced
> >> > > >> > fumble. In
> >> 2006,
> >> > > >> > Payne
> >> > > >> > amassed 98 total tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack,
> >> > > >> > four interceptions, three pass breakups, and one forced
> >> > > >> > fumble. During
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > 2005
> >> > > >> > and 2006 seasons, he also returned 24 kickoffs for 605 yards
> >> > > >> > (
> >> 25.2
> >> > > >> > average)
> >> > > >> > and three punts for nine yards.
> >> > > >> > Payne is a versatile athlete with good size and toughness at
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > safety
> >> > > >> > position. While he made strides as a senior, Payne still is a
> >> > > >> > raw safety that must improve his tackling consistency and
> >> > > >> > recognition skills
> >> > in
> >> > > >> > coverage. He also lacks ideal top-end speed, which limits his
> >> > range.
> >> > > In
> >> > > >> > our
> >> > > >> > opinion, Payne is an intriguing developmental project worthy
> >> > > >> > of consideration in the fourth-to-fifth round range.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
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> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > --
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> >> > > >> >
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