[CBFF] Week 9 thoughts about rivals

[mactbone]

Teams don't reach the redzone as often as they have the ball in the other 80 yards of the field. So, just by virtue of a smaller sample size the way a team plays in the red zone can be different than the way they play in other areas. The same is true of 3rd downs. Things like this are reasons why teams can win more games and look better than they are or vice versa depending on luck and other factors. Just one extra stop (fumble, drop, whatever) can affect a game in a big way that isn't repeatable. You can't expect Edgerrin James to fumble the ball at the one yard line every time. The point is that we should look at the team's larger body of work and assume that's the real team or at least closer to it than the 3rd down, red zone part of the team.
-Chris

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com>
To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 10:26:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Week 9 thoughts about rivals

It amazes me how a team can be #1 in the redzone but blow outside of that.
Why not just play that tough all the time?  I hate bend but don't break
defenses.  I want a shut down defense all the time...not just when the other
team has drove 60 yards and ate up 4 minutes.

-----Original Message-----
From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
[mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Madsen
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:57 AM
To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Week 9 thoughts about rivals

I have to disagree, Chris.  Hanging 44 points on any team doesn't
entirely by luck.  They've got some potency on offense and they showed
it yesterday.

Now, going week 8, the Bears were ranked #30 in yards given-up, but #1
in redzone defense; the ultimate "rubber band" D.  And that's what it
took to limit the Lions to 16 points, so obviously the Bears still
have some bite and the Lions still have some growing to do.  But that
aside, if the discover your vulnerabilities, they'll make ya pay.

As for their special teams being awful.  I don't know much about their
return game or punting, but Jason Hanson is anything but awful.  In
fact, he's pretty damn good, IMHO.

Jerry


On 11/5/07, mactbone <mactbone0 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The offense is mediocre, the defense is pretty bad and the special teams
are awful. Playing bad teams and having good luck has got them six wins, but
that's not going to last. They might make the playoffs because the NFC is
weak and they already have six wins (although Minn. has been there a few
times and missed) but when they play one of the better NFC teams they won't
look as good.
> -Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jerry Madsen <jerrywm at gmail.com>
> To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 8:52:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] Week 9 thoughts about rivals
>
> Ok Chris.  I'll bite.  Why aren't the Lions for real?  Not that I'm
> convinced one way or the other.  I'm just not sure what to think.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 11/5/07, mactbone <mactbone0 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Packers are for real, Lions are not.
> > -Chris
>
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