[CBFF] Rumors

Thu Nov 8 11:02:49 MST 2007

" So lets try Orton then"

That I can agree with.

-----Original Message-----
From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
[mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:56 AM
To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors

Then lets agree to disagree.

I am sure the stats point to Griese having better stats. Its easy to pile up
the passing yards when down by two td's in the second half. So the stats are
misleading. We down by that much due to the horrible play by Griese. But
anyone who watched either Detroit game can not possibly defend Griese as
bieng better than anyone except J.Quinn medicine man.

Griese is no better than Rex. Rex's benching demoralized a team, that was
devastated with injuries. How many times did we throw downfield against the
Chargers? Thats the game I point to for the over coaching, and the limited
playbook.

So lets try Orton then, anyone but Griese.

D
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil DeNomme" <pdenomme at gmail.com>
To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors

> You don't buy that the offense was more productive with Griese vs. Rex?
If
> you want, I'll get the stats out but I don't have the time right now.
>
> For whatever reason, this years rex is horrible.  Completely horrible.  As
> bad as Griese has been, he's still better.
>
> Did you ever think that it appeared the offense opened up with Griese is
its
> cause Turner didn't trust Rex enough this year?
>
> And no, if Rex was throwing 45 times, I seriously doubt he puts up
anything
> close to what Griese was, let alone either of us.
>
> Rex may have more physical talent but he is not the better QB right now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:33 AM
> To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors
>
> So we can live with losing , as long as we get 300 yards passing? Dont buy
> that.
>
> Anyone notice the offense was opened up with Griese? Sure, even you or I
> could put up 300 yards if we are passing 45 times a game, and playing
behind
> by two td's.
>
> D
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil DeNomme" <pdenomme at gmail.com>
> To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors
>
>
> > The point production under Griese is at least twice that what Rex was
> doing
> > this year.  Now many 300 yard games did Rex have this year?  Though,
> Griese
> > is still making turnovers, he is at least putting up points and
> production.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Dietzenbach
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:39 AM
> > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors
> >
> > How does a passer rating of 45 and TD to INT ratio of 1:6 translate
> > into more points and more wins?
> >
> > We won @ both GB and Philly by only one score.  We may not have won
> > either of them with Rex at the helm.  Those are hostile environments
> > and he's too easily rattled to claim he'd have lead us to more points
> > than Griese did.  Heck, Griese played an outstanding game @ Philly.  I
> > don't think Rex could outplay Griese's numbers.
> >
> > It's more likely we have fewer wins than more wins, IMHO, as Griese's
> > play has been a big improvement over Rex's this season.
> >
> > RD
> >
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2007 7:28 AM, Dwayne <dwayne at wctc.net> wrote:
> > > I still think we win both Detroit games with Grossman.
> > > We should have put up a lot more points against the Eagles, and Rex is
> > > unbeaten in Green Bay. So I am looking at least one more w, possibly
> two,
> > if
> > > we stayed with Rex.
> > >
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > > In defense of Dwayne, it isn't like I'm thrilled with Griese so far,
> > > either.
> > > > I can't defend him.  Very disappointing.
> > > >
> > > > Tom S.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com [mailto:cbff-
> > > > > bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Jensen, Jason
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:35 PM
> > > > > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors
> > > > >
> > > > > I was bored, so here you go.
> > > > >
> > > > > Grossman(13-6)- 300/567 for 3,455yds, 52.9%, 21TD to 26 Int, 32
> Sacks,
> > > > > 11 fumbles 7 lost. 64.8 rating.
> > > > > This includes weeks 4-17 plus the postseason last year as well
> > > > > as the three games this year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Griese(2-3) - 124/203 for 1,411yds, 61.1%, 9TD to 10 int, 12
Sacks,
> 5
> > > > > fumbles 1 lost. 76.2 rating.
> > > > > Just this year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Grossman actually had a very solid September and October last
year,
> > > > > except for the ARZ game.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason J
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > Phil DeNomme
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:38 AM
> > > > > > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He had a great September last year.  But since then till the
> > > > > > end of week 3
> > > > > > this year, there really isn't much.  He had a couple good
> > > > > > games but I would
> > > > > > bet his overall stats since last September aren't very
impressive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > Ryan Dietzenbach
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:18 AM
> > > > > > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CBFF] Rumors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 7, 2007 8:41 AM, Dwayne <dwayne at wctc.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > I would not have. I said it then, and I will repeat it now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Every man on the team knows Rex is the better Qb, and it
> > > > > > shows on the
> > > > > > field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It shows on the field?  When?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rex has more raw skill.  He's not a better QB.  Or, at the very
> > > > > least,
> > > > > > he has NOT shown it on the field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And remember, I backed Rex for a LONG time.  He has more ability
> > than
> > > > > > how he's performed, but it was time for a change.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RD
> > > > > >
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