[CBFF] Defensive Records Broken

[Ryan Dietzenbach]

Do you really need "rankings" or stats to know this defense was considerably
worse than last year?  I know I don't.

Heck, if they figure out how to tackle next year they'll move up several
notches.

RD

On Jan 2, 2008 12:02 PM, mactbone <mactbone0 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Are you using yards or points for your ranking? I'm going to assume one or
> the other and point out that those don't adjust for schedule - so
> (hypothetically) facing eight of the top ten offenses would make them look
> worse than they really are. They don't adjust for situation - the Bears
> don't have an offense, so teams spent more time on the field getting yards
> and points, don't adjust for field position - a bad offense gives the other
> team lots of good field position, or facing a team that's running out the
> clock.
>
> The defense wasn't stellar, but it was making strides and it wasn't far
> off from the Chicago defense without Harris. By DVOA, which does adjust for
> those things I mentioned and emphasizes stopping a team before they get the
> yards for a first down, the Bears end up 31st on offense (they were 18th
> last year) and 7th on defense (they were 2nd last year). Actually, they do a
> weighted rating too that drops value from the early games and the Bears are
> at 25th offense and 2nd defense - last year's weighted offense was 26th,
> defense was 2nd. They don't rate well against RBs this year (31st) and were
> only average against TEs. That's a bit odd since they were really good last
> year and you have to assume with Briggs and Urlacher that those would be an
> area of strength.
>
> It'll be awhile but I'm going to go through some different things and try
> to find out what exactly the difference was - schedule, offense, defense,
> QB, O-line... probably a combination, but I'm especially curious why the
> defense took so long to round into shape. They started out average in DVOA
> and stayed there until getting better over the second half of the season and
> I'm going to look into when exactly it changed and why.
> -Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com>
> To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 12:42:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] Defensive Records Broken
>
> Don't let Lovie know that.  He thought the defense played better than last
> year.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Madsen
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: CBFF
> Subject: [CBFF] Defensive Records Broken
>
>  Listening to Mully this AM, he put a new spin on the Bears' woes.
> We've mainly been concerned about the offense this year, but he
> pointed-out that the 2007 Bears defense did three things nobody had
> ever done to a Bears' D:
>
> 1 - Allowed the most yards rushing in a single game by any Bears' D
> (A. Peterson, Vikings)
>
> 2 - Allowed the most points in a single quarter by any Bears' D (Lions)
>
> 3 - Allowed, for the first time, a single player to get both 100 yards
> rushing and 100 yards receiving (P.Thomas, Saints)
>
> On top of all that, they went from being the 5th ranked to the 29th
> ranked defense in the league.
>
> At least the offense only fell from 15th to 25th.
>
> Jerry
>
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