[CBFF] Long goodbye -- chicagotribune.com

[Dwayne]

Nice commentary!
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross McCoy" <ross.mccoy at amd.com>
To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [CBFF] Long goodbye -- chicagotribune.com


> The only QB I am relatively certain we know what we have on is Griese and
even
> he has disappointed me because I thought we had a solid game manager and
his
> turnovers in Detroit (second game) just made me sick. Griese is a veteran
which
> is probably past his prime. If I ignore cap implications, he would be my
first
> cut to fill his spot with a QB drafted in the 2nd-4th round (assuming
Grossman
> can be had for a short term reasonable contract).
>
> I STILL don't know about Grossman, but I have seen enough over two years
to
> have a pretty strong feeling he will never be "special". His fumbled snaps
> REALLY are a big minus. His short stature and inconsistency are pretty big
> negatives in my mind. That being said, I would bring him back to compete
for
> the starting QB position if I could do so for a relatively good price.
There
> still is a possibility that he could be a solid starting QB, but he has
got to
> eliminate his mistakes and his window for doing so is quickly closing. If
> someone offered him a long term contract, I would let him go because I
would
> not want to overpay for him or have him as a long term cap burden.
>
> Orton could be almost anything, but so far has been the most consistent
QB.
> I know Tom doesn't want a game manager, but I think Orton starts off as a
> intelligent game manager with potential to be more than that. Grossman
starts
> off as a gunslinger with potential to be reigned in and work with more
> intelligence and control. If I am going to take a chance on one of them I
> think Orton has a better chance of putting together wins while learning on
> the job (as a bonus he hasn't had the fumblitis and is tall enough to get
> good views over the offensive line). Of course, one would think there is a
> reason Orton has been on the bench for the last 3 years and doesn't have a
> lot of game film on him (recently) which would give us insights into what
makes
> the coaches most nervous about him.
>
> I think looking for a player on a practice squad or as a free agent has
> the possibility of paying off big, but it is a lot like putting a big bet
on
> 2 black on a roulette wheel in Vegas. Odds are it won't pay. Every year
there
> are 32 teams which are looking for the best possible QB to start for them.
Of
> those, maybe 6-8 have found someone which is a "franchise" guy. So if you
are
> confident that you are better than the other 23-31 teams at evaluating QB
> talent and assuming there is such a talent to be found, then you might get
> lucky (or more likely you will end up with a bust). Derek Anderson cases
> usually just sort of happen and you don't plan them. If you recall
Anderson
> didn't get the job until Cleveland gave up on Frye and was afraid to ruin
Quinn
> by putting him in too early. They did not bring Anderson in with the
> expectation he would tear up the league. That being said if we don't fill
our
> third roster spot with a draft pick, I would probably agree that putting a
> player with potential (and preferably a few years of NFL experience (on
the
> bench) is a better way to go than another almost good enough free agent
vet).
>
> Ross
>
> Tom Shannon (tshanno at gmail.com) writes:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com [mailto:cbff-
> > > bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Victor Waldron
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:54 AM
> > > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > Subject: Re: [CBFF] Long goodbye -- chicagotribune.com
> >
> >
> > > Change for the sake of change is going to keep us spinning our wheels.
> >
> > No, it's not.  There's a log jam at QB.  Three guys, none of whom is
good
> > enough.  Spinning your wheels is keeping them all and praying that by
some
> > miracle they'll turn out to be something different than they are.
> >
> > All I'm asking is that you take a chance on one guy.  Find yourself an
> > unknown backup on someone's roster or practice squad that you've always
> > liked.  Hell, I'm not a GM.  I don't know what's there.  That's Angelo's
> > job.  But they're there.  They're always there.  It's just a question of
> > finding someone.  What the hell is there to lose?
> >
> > Tom S.
> >
> >
> > There is still a difference between something and nothing, but it is
purely
> > geometrical and there is nothing behind the geometry.
> > ? - Martin Gardner
> > http://blog.chicagobearsfanform.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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