[CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters

[Phil DeNomme]

Yea, he's dreamy!!  :)

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[mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Steve Behrens
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters

As do I

On Jan 30, 2008 12:51 PM, Dwayne <dwayne at wctc.net> wrote:

> I like Rex's character.
> D
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mactbone" <mactbone0 at yahoo.com>
> To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters
>
>
> > Everything I've read makes it seem that at the very least he was with a
> group of people that initiated violence upon someone with no physical
> reason
> for doing so and he didn't do anything to stop them.
> >
> > I raised the question of RMJ in another e-mail, but what about the
> people
> that hired Spellman or any other athlete that had issues before being
> drafted and signed? I would wager that at least 50% of the teams have
> hired
> someone who had been arrested at some point before they were signed and
> it's
> probably a lot higher than that. There are tons of guys that have gotten
> second chances and it's easy to label the people that enabled them as
> jerks
> of the highest order but I think it would be better to look at more than a
> few anecdotes - and even then it only speaks to one aspect of a person.
> There are lots of reasons that people do this kind of enabling - they
> trust
> others to a fault, really believe that they can turn someone around, in
> some
> cases really are selfish jerks, desperate or whatever other reason. It
> just
> seems easy to say that we would never hire someone arrested for a crime
> without being in that situation. Obviously at this point I can't see how
> >  anyone could hire Stevens given his long history, but there was a point
> where all anyone knew about him were one or two isolated incidents where
> the
> authorities didn't even press the issue. Boys will be boys, trust in the
> competence of the authorities, whatever, there were certainly reasons to
> doubt that he was a destructive idiot who couldn't be a productive member
> of
> society and it was up to each individual to evaluate that likelihood -
> hindsight being 20/20 we can say they made the wrong choice.
> > -Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net>
> > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:53:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters
> >
> > Hmm, yes and no. I have no doubt it matters more than it did to Bruce
> Allen
> > and Mike Holmgren.
> >
> > One thing you have to bear in mind is that because this is the pros,
> with
> > grown men who decide whether they want to work for you or not (when
> their
> > contracts are up), you have to be careful about how you come down on
> people.
> > I don't know the reality of the RMJ case except that there seemed to be
> > somewhat varying accounts of what it was really about. I'm sure he was
> being
> > a dick, but I somehow doubt the victim's complaint that the group
> attacked
> > him simply because he was using a laptop. I recall a story about Charles
> > Barkley throwing a guy through a plate-glass window that sounded pretty
> bad,
> > but upon hearing the details, I'd stand up and cheer if I saw that
> happen.
> I
> > imagine RMJ was in the middle there somewhere, and I hope that Angelo
> was
> > fair and just -- at least in terms of pro football. I know I'd get some
> sort
> > of discipline from my employer in that situation, but I'm not sure I'd
> get
> > fired, and I know I wouldn't get fired for it if they had to pay several
> > million dollars to fire me.
> >
> > I don't know that JA is immaculate in holding to his principles, but he
> does
> > ultimately have to answer to Virginia, and you know she wouldn't want to
> see
> > Oakland Raiders East.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Cetina" <jason at cetinas.org>
> >
> > > It makes me glad that the Bears got rid of Tank, but sad that they
> gave
> > > a pass to RMJ.
> > >
> > > I know Angelo and Lovie say character matters, but do you believe
> them?
> > > I think I do, but I drink a lot of blue and orange kool-aid.
> > > -
> > > Jason
> > >
> >
> >
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