[CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters

[Kenny Claxton]

Phil has a man-crush!

On 1/30/08, Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yea, he's dreamy!!  :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> [mailto:cbff-bounces at chicagobearsfanforum.com] On Behalf Of Steve Behrens
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> Subject: Re: [CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters
>
> As do I
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 12:51 PM, Dwayne <dwayne at wctc.net> wrote:
>
> > I like Rex's character.
> > D
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mactbone" <mactbone0 at yahoo.com>
> > To: <post at chicagobearsfanforum.com>
> >  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters
> >
> >
> > > Everything I've read makes it seem that at the very least he was with a
> > group of people that initiated violence upon someone with no physical
> > reason
> > for doing so and he didn't do anything to stop them.
> > >
> > > I raised the question of RMJ in another e-mail, but what about the
> > people
> > that hired Spellman or any other athlete that had issues before being
> > drafted and signed? I would wager that at least 50% of the teams have
> > hired
> > someone who had been arrested at some point before they were signed and
> > it's
> > probably a lot higher than that. There are tons of guys that have gotten
> > second chances and it's easy to label the people that enabled them as
> > jerks
> > of the highest order but I think it would be better to look at more than a
> > few anecdotes - and even then it only speaks to one aspect of a person.
> > There are lots of reasons that people do this kind of enabling - they
> > trust
> > others to a fault, really believe that they can turn someone around, in
> > some
> > cases really are selfish jerks, desperate or whatever other reason. It
> > just
> > seems easy to say that we would never hire someone arrested for a crime
> > without being in that situation. Obviously at this point I can't see how
> > >  anyone could hire Stevens given his long history, but there was a point
> > where all anyone knew about him were one or two isolated incidents where
> > the
> > authorities didn't even press the issue. Boys will be boys, trust in the
> > competence of the authorities, whatever, there were certainly reasons to
> > doubt that he was a destructive idiot who couldn't be a productive member
> > of
> > society and it was up to each individual to evaluate that likelihood -
> > hindsight being 20/20 we can say they made the wrong choice.
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Jim Ferolie <ferolie at charter.net>
> > > To: post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:53:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CBFF] [NBR] Why character matters
> > >
> > > Hmm, yes and no. I have no doubt it matters more than it did to Bruce
> > Allen
> > > and Mike Holmgren.
> > >
> > > One thing you have to bear in mind is that because this is the pros,
> > with
> > > grown men who decide whether they want to work for you or not (when
> > their
> > > contracts are up), you have to be careful about how you come down on
> > people.
> > > I don't know the reality of the RMJ case except that there seemed to be
> > > somewhat varying accounts of what it was really about. I'm sure he was
> > being
> > > a dick, but I somehow doubt the victim's complaint that the group
> > attacked
> > > him simply because he was using a laptop. I recall a story about Charles
> > > Barkley throwing a guy through a plate-glass window that sounded pretty
> > bad,
> > > but upon hearing the details, I'd stand up and cheer if I saw that
> > happen.
> > I
> > > imagine RMJ was in the middle there somewhere, and I hope that Angelo
> > was
> > > fair and just -- at least in terms of pro football. I know I'd get some
> > sort
> > > of discipline from my employer in that situation, but I'm not sure I'd
> > get
> > > fired, and I know I wouldn't get fired for it if they had to pay several
> > > million dollars to fire me.
> > >
> > > I don't know that JA is immaculate in holding to his principles, but he
> > does
> > > ultimately have to answer to Virginia, and you know she wouldn't want to
> > see
> > > Oakland Raiders East.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jason Cetina" <jason at cetinas.org>
> > >
> > > > It makes me glad that the Bears got rid of Tank, but sad that they
> > gave
> > > > a pass to RMJ.
> > > >
> > > > I know Angelo and Lovie say character matters, but do you believe
> > them?
> > > > I think I do, but I drink a lot of blue and orange kool-aid.
> > > > -
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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