[CBFF] Bye bye, Berrian :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bears - Sent Using Google Toolbar

Sun Mar 2 08:31:54 MST 2008

And I will conceed that we don't need "stars" but we certainly need "something."

Hester and Bradley ain't it.

RD

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Jason Cetina <jason at cetinas.org> wrote:
> Meh. Point of order debate stuff. I'm no Barrack Obama.
>
> Anyway, I just think we could have Moss and Owens and it wouldn't matter
> if we couldn't protect the QB or run the ball.
>
>
> Ryan Dietzenbach wrote:
> > Of course, but everyone stunk in that game.  Also, now you're changing
> > your tune.  Before you said "receivers in general and Berrian in
> > particular don't tend to be difference makers on the road to a championship."
> >
> > RD
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Jason Cetina <jason at cetinas.org> wrote:
> >
> >> And his 4 for 38 in SB XLI were...forgettable.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ryan Dietzenbach wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, he was pretty important.  The Bears didn't have a big time
> >>> running game so it was necessary to have some sort of passing game to
> >>> offset that and keep the defenses honest.  He's a true deep threat
> >>> that defenses have no choice but to respect.  His 5 catches for 105
> >>> yards and a TD against the Seahawks were huge, then he follwed it up
> >>> with 5 more for 85 and a TD against the Saints.
> >>>
> >>> Do we win those games with Rashied Davis as our #2 WR?  I doubt
> >>> it--especially not the first game.
> >>>
> >>> How are the Bears going to plug this hole?  I'll be interested to find out.
> >>>
> >>> RD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Jason Cetina <jason at cetinas.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> OK,  put another way, do you think the Bears would have lost those games
> >>>> w/out Berrian? Is his presence that important? Rashied Davis made a
> >>>> pretty damn clutch catch against the Seahawks in the divisional round of
> >>>> those games. We might have lost the Seahawks game if not for him (and
> >>>> Grossman's perfect throw to him). Should we break the bank for him, too?
> >>>>
> >>>> Berrian had great stats for those games for sure, and he'll be missed.
> >>>> But in the long run, the team needs to focus on re-tooling the ground
> >>>> game first. They won't be able to do jack s**t on offense until they do.
> >>>> -
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ryan Dietzenbach wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Berrian wasn't a difference maker for the Bears the past two seasons?
> >>>>> He wasn't a difference maker on the road to the NFC title in 2006?  I
> >>>>> would strongly disagree with that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't think he was an absolute superstar but he was the best we had
> >>>>> and other than Moss he's the best on the market right now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unless something drastic happens this made us a worse team.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RD
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason Cetina <jason at cetinas.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm not saying we won't miss him, just that the money  is better spent
> >>>>>> elsewhere long term. Beyond that, receivers in general and Berrian in
> >>>>>> particular don't tend to be difference makers on the road to a
> >>>>>> championship. The money is better spent in the trenches than at the edges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ryan Dietzenbach wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll remember these posts if and when we are bemoaning the lack of
> >>>>>>> quality WR play during the upcoming season.  As it stands right now,
> >>>>>>> our WR corps are pathetic and the options literally are dwindling by
> >>>>>>> the minute.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RD
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Jason Cetina <jason at cetinas.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's stupid money. Beyond that, I'm not sure any receiver ever really
> >>>>>>>> puts a team over the top and into the Super Bowl. The free agents that
> >>>>>>>> always seem to make a difference are the defensive ones (Reggie White,
> >>>>>>>> Deion Sanders, various Patriots players). The only reason this reeks at
> >>>>>>>> all was because of the missed opportunity to franchise him.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking that even though Angelo won't call it such, we're in year 1
> >>>>>>>> of a 3 year rebuilding project. If that's the case, he was right to let
> >>>>>>>> Berrian go so he can focus on younger more important talent (Briggs,
> >>>>>>>> Harris), and to start rebuilding the o-line through the draft. I think
> >>>>>>>> the defense has 3-5 years left in the tank if Harris stays and we
> >>>>>>>> solidify the safeties. The nucleus of this team is no longer Urlacher
> >>>>>>>> and Mike Brown, though. It's Tommie Harris, Briggs, Tillman, Vasher,
> >>>>>>>> Ogunleye, and A. Brown.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For the record, Berrian probably will do really well this year because
> >>>>>>>> the Vikings can easily sell play action. If their running game collapses
> >>>>>>>> though, he won't do much.
> >>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tom Shannon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bye bye, Berrian :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bears
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bears receiver Berrian to sign with Vikings
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> March 1, 2008
> >>>>>>>>> BY BRAD BIGGS
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The Bears have lost wide receiver Bernard Berrian.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Minnesota was determined not to let Berrian leave for a visit to the
> >>>>>>>>> Oakland Raiders, and after the Vikings lost out on defensive end
> >>>>>>>>> Justin Smith Saturday morning when he agreed to a deal in San
> >>>>>>>>> Francisco, there were more resources to pour into a wide receiver to
> >>>>>>>>> bolster the offense. Terms of the deal have not yet been confirmed,
> >>>>>>>>> but once source said the Bears never moved off their offer of $25
> >>>>>>>>> million over five years.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> » Click to enlarge image
> >>>>>>>>> The NFL's shopping bonanza kicked off with wide receiver Bernard
> >>>>>>>>> Berrian being one of the hottest commodities.
> >>>>>>>>> (Tom Cruze/Sun-Times)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> RELATED STORIES Blog: Inside the Bears Updated 9:30: Gilmore
> >>>>>>>>> officially signs with Bucs Bears hold out hope
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Berrian's departure leaves the Bears' receiving corps in a hole.
> >>>>>>>>> Muhsin Muhammad was previously released so the team must come up with
> >>>>>>>>> two starters now. Mark Bradley, Devin Hester, Mike Hass and Brandon
> >>>>>>>>> Rideau are the only receivers under contract. Rashied Davis has been
> >>>>>>>>> tendered an offer at the low level of $927,000 as a restricted free
> >>>>>>>>> agent.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  ``We don't have any choice but to make it,'' wide receivers coach
> >>>>>>>>> Darryl Drake said. ``You have to move on and work on getting better.
> >>>>>>>>> It'll be tough without him.''
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Berrian led the Bears with 71 receptions for 951 yards and five
> >>>>>>>>> touchdowns last season. The Bears had offered him a $25 million,
> >>>>>>>>> five-year contract with $8 million to sign. They remained in
> >>>>>>>>> discussions with agent Drew Rosenhaus during Berrian's visit to
> >>>>>>>>> Minnesota, but couldn't lure him back.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Here is how big of a hole the Bears have on offense now-Berrian and
> >>>>>>>>> Muhammad combined for 111 catches, 1,521 yards and eight touchdowns
> >>>>>>>>> last season. The rest of the wide receivers on the roster had 43
> >>>>>>>>> catches for 535 yards and three touchdowns. Bradley, the former
> >>>>>>>>> second-round draft pick player coaches and management alike have been
> >>>>>>>>> talking up so much, had only six receptions and barely saw the field.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  The departure of Berrian signals the Bears will likely increase
> >>>>>>>>> efforts to re-sign three-time Pro Bowl linebacker Lance Briggs.
> >>>>>>>>> However, the market has been eerily quiet for him thus far and it
> >>>>>>>>> might be a situation right now where there is no one for the team to
> >>>>>>>>> bid against. The Bears have a big-money deal on the table for him.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  As for the needs at receiver, the Bears will likely contact agent
> >>>>>>>>> Joel Segal about finalizing a visit with Bryant Johnson, provided he
> >>>>>>>>> does not sign with the Buffalo Bills, where he is headed this weekend.
> >>>>>>>>> Javon Walker and D.J. Hackett are also part of Plan B. The Bears may
> >>>>>>>>> need to move quickly as NFL Network reports Donte Stallworth has
> >>>>>>>>> agreed to terms with Cleveland.
> >>>>>>>>>
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