[CBFF] Forte

Aaron S adsti3 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 2 10:35:39 MDT 2009 

What is "Worklad"

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jerry Madsen<jerrywm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Keep in mind, as you read the following, Forte had 379 touches last
> year (316 rushes):
>
> http://www.sofantasyfootball.com/nfl/n1.php
>
> Jerry
>
> On 7/2/09, Steve Behrens <steve.behrens at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok, then show me some (evidence), and while you're at it, show me how that
>> injury rate differs from those who have been in the league for different
>> amounts of time, and for those players who get injured with just a normal
>> work load, and those with a light work load.  Saying there's "enough
>> evidence" and showing the evidence in a comprehensive, analytical crunching
>> of *all* of the numbers are two very different things.  Or I should just
>> take your word for it that there's "enough evidence"?
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe, just maybe, you're referring to the law of averages… something like
>> where a player who hasn't been significantly hurt past what the average is
>> for an NFL player, might be considered due (like the average might be
>> catching up to Favre…. or, more specifically to our point, the average rate
>> of injury for high work load RB's), but even then, Forte is in only his
>> second year and odds are that work load will be reduced from the year
>> before.
>>
>>
>>
>> In very scientific terminology that you may or may not be able to
>> understand:  You guys are reaching.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Behr
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:49 AM, mactbone <mactbone0 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  It doesn't matter how many touches Jones gets. The miles are already
>>> there. I wouldn't predict IR, but I'd bet on injuries slowing him down.
>>> There's enough evidence out there for me to think that everyone who's not
>>> Eric Dickerson has trouble a year after an exceptionally heavy workload.
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Victor Waldron <victor19 at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:08:28 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CBFF] Forte
>>>
>>> Jerry, Forte will be fine even after his heavy workload last year
>>> because KJones will get a larger percentage of snaps this year.
>>> Lovie/Turner have a dynamic 1-2 punch that will not only serve to
>>> cause opposing DCs fits it will keep both of them near 100 percent
>>> healthwise.
>>>
>>> Take a sip of the kool-aid.
>>>
>>> V
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jerry Madsen<jerrywm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I am calm.  I am rational.  This is a very pragmatic supposition I'm
>>> > making.  I'm being neither positive or negative.  This is simply my
>>> > expectation... reasonable expectation.
>>> >
>>> > It's no less less rational than my belief that the Bears will go 19-0
>>> this year.
>>> >
>>> > Jerry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Steve Behrens<steve.behrens at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Hot steaming bowl of something, anyway  ;-)  1st, the coaches have
>>> already
>>> >> stated they need to get Jones on the field more this year; one, because
>>> he
>>> >> looks like he's completely over his knee injury, and two, because they
>>> need
>>> >> to spell Forte more than they did last year.  And he was pretty much an
>>> iron
>>> >> warrior last year, at the top of the league in possessions with carries
>>> and
>>> >> catches, with hardly an injury, but he's just going to fall apart this
>>> year?
>>> >> Not this year, not with Jones getting substantial PT, not with Cutler
>>> >> keeping the defense honest, and not with the new and improved OL.  With
>>> that
>>> >> said, anyone can get injured on any play, but the Bears have done, and
>>> plan
>>> >> to do as much as they can to keep that from happening IMO.
>>> >>
>>> >> All this optimism has some on the list going into fits of negativity!!
>>> >> Jer, keep the bag over your mouth and breath slowly.... slowly...
>>> >> that's
>>> >> it... better... better. Now, I want you to take a sip of that
>>> blue koolaid
>>> >> there and say to yourself,  'This was the best off season ever in the
>>> >> history of the Bears (from what I can remember) and dammit, we ARE
>>> >> going
>>> to
>>> >> kick ass this year!!'
>>> >>
>>> >> -Behr
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Phil DeNomme <pdenomme at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> you're just a bowl full of sunshine, jerry.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Jerry Madsen <jerrywm at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm basing my prediction on the fact that the Bears worked him into
>>> >>>> the ground his rookie year and I expect his body to react badly in
>>> >>>> 09.
>>> >>>> His OTA injury served to confirm my belief.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Jerry
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 7/1/09, Ross McCoy <ross.mccoy at amd.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> > Is your statement based on the injury Forte suffered in OTAs or
>>> >>>> > just
>>> a
>>> >>>> > particularly dreary outlook? BTW I think he could still be eligible
>>> for
>>> >>>> > the PUP list if he isn't able to pass his entrance physical to
>>> training
>>> >>>> > camp (even though his injury was football related, it did not occur
>>> >>>> > during the course of the 2009 season).
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Ross
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Jerry Madsen wrote:
>>> >>>> >> Fine. He'll be an IR candidate this season by being listed as
>>> >>>> >> questionable or doubtful for most games.
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> Jerry
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> On 7/1/09, Michael Halatek <tekster420 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>> Jerry,
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> Unless I'm missing something, how do you expect Forte to find his
>>> way
>>> >>>> >>> to
>>> >>>> >>> the
>>> >>>> >>> PUP list?  He would have to find his way there via a non-football
>>> >>>> >>> injury.
>>> >>>> >>> ANd he would not be able to spend chunks of time..  Isn't it a
>>> >>>> >>> one
>>> >>>> >>> time
>>> >>>> >>> thing?  A player can't be moved back and forth from the PUP
>>> list...
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> From:
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> "Jerry Madsen" <jerrywm at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> To:
>>> >>>> >>> post at chicagobearsfanforum.com
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> Matt Forte will spend large chunks of 09 on the PUP. Just a
>>> >>>> >>> prediction.
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> Jerry
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
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